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Watch This Episode on YouTubeListen To This Episode:[0:06] Leigh Cuen: Good day, can everyone hear me?[0:09] Jeremy Rubin: Good day, hi there.[0:10] Leigh: Superior. Thanks a lot for making me a co-host right here. Superior. We’ve received The Rabbi, and Jeremy you there too?[0:16] Jeremy: Good day. How’s it going?[0:18] Leigh: Hey, everyone, chag sameach. Pleased Hanukkah.[0:22] The Bitcoin Rabbi Caras: Hanukkah sameach. Pleased Hanukkah.[0:24] Leigh: Cool. I am tremendous enthusiastic about this. I do not assume I’ve ever had so many buddies to have a good time Hanukkah with. So very enthusiastic about this Bitcoin neighborhood factor, seems like quite a lot of enjoyable.CK, is there something that you just needed to start out us off with by way of similar to, I do know that the journal not too long ago got here out, proper? That is on cabinets right now?[0:40] CK: Yeah. So, I assume that is the half the place I shell after which I am going to allow you to guys have a good time Hanukkah collectively, however…[0:50] Jeremy: We’re gears. We shull right here. We do not shell.[0:53] Leigh: Precisely.[0:54] CK: Precisely. Properly, yeah, so Bitcoin Journal, the El Salvador version simply got here out. So, you may go to subscribe to that by going to the Bitcoin Journal retailer. You could find that on our web site and the journal is totally lovely. Actually, actually advocate it. A whole lot of wonderful work there and wonderful story by Aaron van Wirdum, who spent, I imagine, 4 months in El Salvador, just about after the regulation was introduced after which, via, it type of coming to fruition. So, he put quite a lot of coronary heart and soul into that and there is quite a lot of different wonderful work. Leigh right here had an interview with Cynthia Lummis, and that was unbelievable as properly. So, I extremely advocate that, extremely advocate the Bitcoin Convention, b.tc/convention/. Try all of the wonderful audio system.If you wish to meet Bitcoiners, that’s the final place to fulfill Bitcoiners. You should use promo code “Satoshi” to avoid wasting your self 10%. Spend with Bitcoin or purchase together with your Bitcoin and save a further $100 off of your GA ticket and $1,000 off of your Whale Move. So, you may stack the low cost code with the Bitcoin bot, maximize your financial savings. However the Bitcoin Convention is the last word competition. We’re doing a three-day occasion and concluding it with a music competition. Consider that as like the last word after-party to have a good time the Bitcoin tradition and hopefully all-time excessive. So, you bought to be there, however that’s sufficient of the promo, and I am going to hand it off to you, Leigh.[02:40] Leigh: Superior. So, okay, everyone, by the way in which, who’s right here that is celebrating tonight? I might encourage you to boost your hand to ask to talk, as a result of all through the night time, we’ll simply be asking how completely different Bitcoiners all over the world are celebrating. It is a enjoyable vacation. However earlier than that, I wish to ask Jeremy a little bit bit how he is been celebrating, as a result of him and our favourite Rabbi, right here, have been doing one thing I don’t perceive in any respect, nevertheless it appears type of cool.So, I wish to begin perhaps at a excessive stage speaking about this experiment after which perhaps get down extra granular and extra technical. From what I perceive, he referred to as it a time-locked gelt drop. Gelt is just like the little chocolate cash that we gamble with after we play dreidel. So, okay, cash, I get that joke. The entire time-locked dropping one thing in a Hanukkah form, that I do not perceive in any respect. So Jeremy, are you able to inform me a little bit bit about your Bitcoin experiment this vacation?[03:30] Jeremy: Yeah, I can. However I used to be pondering, as a result of I have never but lit the Bitcoin “Hanukiah” but. Perhaps Rabbi may lead us in a fast prayer, after which I’ll submit the transactions to mild it for tonight.[03:45] Leigh: Oh, snap. That is placing you on the spot. Rabbi, do you thoughts main us in a fast lighting of the candles?[03:51] The Bitcoin Rabbi: Okay. So, now, clearly, we already lit our…[03:56] Leigh: Yeah, since you’re on the East Coast.[03:57] The Bitcoin Rabbi: … mentioned these prayers. We mentioned these prayers after we lit our menorah tonight. So for individuals who do not know, we mild for the eight days of Hanukkah, an actual menorah, you are able to do it with any type of candles. Some folks do with wax candles. The standard method is with oil candles as we’ll focus on in a while. Then there are two blessings that we are saying after we mild these candles. I am going to provide the rendition of it that we do after we really mild that and have it in thoughts that’s it is also for the Bitcoin smart-contract menorah as properly.[04:37] Jeremy: When you’re at dwelling within the acceptable time zone, you might additionally mild your Menorah now.[04:42] The Bitcoin Rabbi: Yeah. It’s best to. It is the third night time of Hanukkah, so it is a good time if it is after sundown to mild your individual. All proper, [prayer].[05:29] Leigh: Thanks a lot. That was way more lovely than I may have sung that.[05:33] The Bitcoin Rabbi: Yeah, Amen. Certain, positive. Jeremy, I…[05:40] Jeremy: Amen.[05:41] The Bitcoin Rabbi: … I see the hyperlink there.[05:42] Leigh: Superior.[05:43] Jeremy: Yeah. So whereas Rabbi was doing that, I used to be working round to each mild my bodily menorah and to mild the blockchain menorah that we’ve on Bitcoin. So, if you happen to’re following within the viewers and also you go forward and click on that tweet that was posted, what you may see is a gif or a little bit video of the menorah that I made. As you may see, there are eight blockchain candelabras, one for every night time. These are represented by Bitcoin transactions.So, if you happen to scroll down from that little video, you may see there’s the blockstream.data hyperlink to a transaction. So, that is simply so everyone can, do not belief confirm. You’ll be able to verify that I really made a blockchain menorah. So then, if you happen to go and also you click on on that transaction hyperlink, and also you take a look at the outputs, you will see the one which’s marked quantity two as a result of it is zero index. So there’s zero, then one, then two, and it is like bc1qs4, et cetera, with .000248 Bitcoin. You go forward and click on on that deal with. What you will see is there’s a transaction that’s presently unconfirmed within the mempool. Within the video, that corresponds to the Bitcoin transaction that you may see that has three outputs representing the three candles which might be lit on the aspect of Hanukkah. Every of these outputs has 8,000 Satoshis on it which might be a present to some buddies that Rabbi discovered which have Bitcoin addresses.[07:28] The Bitcoin Rabbi: Yeah, we collected thirty-six folks signed up that each night time of Hanukkah, you begin on the primary night time, one candle, the second night time, two candles, as much as eight nights on the eight candles. So add all that up, there’s thirty-six whole. So we received thirty-six people who signed up and a gelt drop. “Gelt” means cash, as a result of actually it means cash in Yiddish and in a number of Germanic languages. So, every night time on the primary night time, we gelt drop some eight thousand Sats to at least one individual. Final night time, eight thousand Sats to 2 folks. Tonight, to a few folks, et cetera.[08:08] Leigh: That is unbelievable. Did you must gather any type of like data from folks? Did folks have to coordinate to sync something on the identical time? Like, how do you do one thing with so many alternative folks all over the world?[08:18] The Bitcoin Rabbi: We simply collected thirty-six obtained addresses from folks. I made a type and move it round to some folks and DMs and stuff and picked up over the course of like 24 hours. I really collected about 5 thousand obtained addresses, together with all of the spam that we received, however I used to be in a position to whittle it all the way down to thirty-six legit ones.[08:43] Leigh: That is so cool. I all the time discover it so fascinating the way in which that Bitcoin allows folks to transact all over the world while not having to confirm or know something about anybody. They will simply do one thing collectively, on this case, one thing that is celebratory and nostalgic even.I noticed that in your tweet. So Jeremy, you mentioned one thing about candle lighting within the mempool. I’ve zero thought how the idea of mempool applies to this experiment or perhaps it is a completely completely different experiment. Are you able to clarify to me a little bit bit what mempool means on this particular context of this experiment?[09:14] Jeremy: Yeah. Certain. So, each night time, we’ve to submit a transaction to the mempool on the acceptable time. Once you submit a transaction to the mempool, it isn’t totally confirmed, which implies it may very well be undone nonetheless. Anyone may double-spend it, for instance. I am not an professional on the halachic. Meaning just like the comparables for what would…[09:37] The Bitcoin Rabbi: Jewish authorized guidelines.[09:41] Jeremy: Yeah. Principally, like if it is kosher or not, if it is good. So I am not likely an professional on that, though I can speculate the Hanukiah would not likely be thought of lit till there are six confirmations or not less than one affirmation, however perhaps three is an efficient quantity. Historically, on Hanukkah and plenty of Jewish holidays, you wait till you may see three stars within the sky. So perhaps it is smart to attend till you see three confirmations on the transaction earlier than you think about the Bitcoin Hanukiah totally lit.[10:18] Leigh: That is so cool.[10:18] The Bitcoin Rabbi: That’s superior. That’s nice level, Jeremy, that you just talked about that yesterday and I did not totally get that connection. However, yeah, so it simply signifies that the transaction is submitted however must get confirmed. Final yr, I additionally needed to do a Bitcoin gelt reward, which I do yearly to my youngsters. So simply the only method that I used to be in a position to do it final yr was doing it to my six youngsters, however I did a six output, one enter, six output transaction of gifting the entire youngsters. Only a one-time factor. That was my expertise.Similar to you, Leigh, I like to enter my Electrum app and mess around with it.[11:06] Leigh: Oh my gosh, the torture. Sure.[11:07] The Bitcoin Rabbi: [inaudible] great point, and if I do not wreck myself. However that was what I used to be in a position to determine final yr, how one can ship a six in a single transaction to present some Hanukkah gelt to my youngsters. Like a month in the past, I messaged Jeremy. I used to be like, Jeremy, Hanukkah, good contract, stick, go, determine what we’re going to do. So he took it to the subsequent stage.[11:38] Jeremy: So I wish to make a particular announcement, which is that my mother is on this Twitter area.[11:43] Leigh: Oh my gosh, welcome, Jeremy’s mother.[11:46] The Bitcoin Rabbi: Pleased Hanukkah, Mrs. Rubin.[11:46] Jeremy: She despatched me a textual content message saying, I do not actually perceive what you are speaking about however I am attempting to comply with. So, is it CK working the Bitcoin Journal account? Are you able to deliver her up? Then she will be able to perhaps ask, as a result of I wish to make it possible for everyone is ready to comply with what is going on on. So, perhaps if my mother’s not too shy, she’ll come up in and ask some clarifying questions. She understands Bitcoin.[12:18] Leigh: Yeah, I’ve accepted some folks. Actually fast, earlier than she will get to ask her query and we dig deeper into each this and all of the completely different sorts of issues that persons are doing to have a good time Jewish holidays associated to Bitcoin or in ways in which it pertains to Bitcoin, I am curious if anybody else additionally, if anybody needed to essentially briefly share how it’s that they are celebrating tonight. Jay or Youssef, are both of you celebrating tonight and needed to share actually fast the way you’re celebrating earlier than we dig deeper into extra Bitcoin technical stuff?[12:45] Jay: I’m celebrating tonight. My girlfriend and I simply lit some candles and it is one thing that I’ve type of all the time finished. I all the time actually love Hanukkah. Yeah, this yr, I gave her a e book.[13:03] Leigh: Superior. I am actually glad to listen to that you just’re having an excellent vacation. Youssef?[13:07] The Bitcoin Rabbi: Great. Have a Pleased Hanukkah to you, too.[13:10] Leigh: Yeah.[13:11] Jay: Yeah, Pleased Hanukkah.[13:12] Leigh: Approving somebody named Jacob, so I am assuming you are celebrating. Mr. Jacob.[13:17] Jacob: Chag sameach, Leigh Cuen.[13:20] Leigh: Chag sameach. Pleased vacation, everyone.[13:22] Visitor 1: Good day?[13:23] Leigh: There you go. Now, you are on.[13:24] Visitor 1: Yeah. So what’s the group? What are we doing over right here?[13:31] Leigh: We’re celebrating a Jewish vacation. Truly in just some minutes, I feel I am going to ask The Rabbi to elucidate what is going on on with the vacation, as a result of he’ll do a significantly better job explaining the story than I ever may. Yeah, we have been simply celebrating the way in which that folks use Bitcoin in celebrating this Jewish vacation.[13:47] Visitor 2: I am going to simply say Pleased Hanukkah. That is my first time being a speaker for a lot of instances within the area of Bitcoin. I did obtain the journal and it’s a true reward to have the ability to learn it each Shabbat. So, thanks for making it, and I look ahead to proceed getting it.[14:08] Leigh: Superior. Thanks a lot. Yeah, it is actually enjoyable to learn stuff offline generally. You’ll be able to simply actually soak it up another way. So I will as actually fast, as a result of if I am understanding accurately, your entire level of Bitcoin, proper, is it is a ledger. So the way in which that you’ve got organized one thing is a quite simple phrase that perhaps she will be able to perceive, is that such as you’ve made it this factor of time locking. So transactions occur in a sure method that may create a sure sample and that sample is consultant of the Hanukiah. So the candle holder. Did I, in a really, quite simple time period, clarify what you probably did accurately?[14:42] Jeremy: Yep.[14:43] Leigh: Cool.[14:47] Jeremy: Oh, yeah, I imply, and I feel that it simply typically in Judaism, folks actually love symbolism and representations of different issues or perhaps like extra within the summary and discovering a few of these patterns. So, that is why I feel it is notably enjoyable to have the ability to characterize the competition of life on Bitcoin.[15:09] Leigh: Yeah.[15:10] Jeremy: I feel that what’s additionally fascinating, too, is from a properness view is that as a result of Bitcoin is like vitality cash, all of those Satoshis type of like comprise a little bit bit of fireplace in them, proper?[15:22] The Bitcoin Rabbi: Yeah. Every one in all these transactions is just about like a nuclear bomb over within the Atlantic Ocean within the quantity of vitality it is consumed. So it’s as we all know. So, that is why it truly is like lighting a candle to every one in all them.[15:41] Leigh: I have been actually impressed with the completely different ways in which you have integrated Bitcoin into the way you’re elevating your loved ones, the way in which that you just have a good time sure traditions. For a special vacation, I recall for Passover, you had a hidden afikoman. So, like within the custom of Passover, you conceal a small piece of matzah that the children get to search out and so they can get rewards once they discover it. The Rabbi right here hid a small QR code that whoever discovered it in a VR world would get Sats.[16:08] The Bitcoin Rabbi: It simply so occurred to be that Jeremy Rubin is the one which discovered it.[16:12] Leigh: What? I did provide you with credit score nevertheless it’s Jeremy who does all of the cool issues. Properly, I am pleased with you, Jeremy.[16:16] The Bitcoin Rabbi: No, I hid it. I am the one who hid it. Jeremy is the one…[16:19] Jeremy: Yeah, he hid it.[16:20] The Bitcoin Rabbi: Jeremy is the one who discovered it. We had about perhaps ten or so folks.[16:25] Jeremy: I used to be simply being a nuisance in VR and working across the desk so I occur to observed it.[16:29] The Bitcoin Rabbi: We had like 10 or twelve people who have been in a digital Passover Seder and the afikoman, the hidden prize on the finish of the Seder was a SAT QR code and Jeremy occurred to be the one to grab it up, it is a good factor.[16:46] Visitor 2: So, Rabbi, does this imply that the Bitcoin maximalist is venturing into the meta world?[16:55] Leigh: Metaverse.[16:55] Visitor 2: Into the metaverse?[16:57] The Bitcoin Rabbi: Pay attention, there’s positively [inaudible]. When you do not assume there’s going to be Bitcoin maximalist within the metaverse, in fact, there are. So, don’t be concerned.[17:07] Leigh: I simply assume it is actually cool that we’re in a position to make use of this new know-how with the intention to do very old skool issues, issues we have been doing actually for hundreds of years, and it is a actually enjoyable option to train youngsters and train members of the family, whether or not it is the time-locked menorah that Jeremy is doing or the hidden Bitcoin treasure of afikoman. I simply assume these are actually revolutionary and enjoyable and…[17:29] The Bitcoin Rabbi: The humorous factor is, is that I type of received perspective from my senior rabbi that I work beneath, that he made, like within the ’70s, he began making a mock like New York Instances headline newspaper that was Torah tales positioned as in the event that they have been like newspaper articles and issues. Then in my lessons that I have been doing over the previous few years, I do like tech lessons at our Jewish Day College. So then we took the identical concepts and we made them like a CNN type new present. So, it is type of an ongoing theme of Jewish educator attempting to deliver these tales, as a result of the Hanukkah story occurred about 2,200 years in the past. Despite the fact that it is an especially compelling and highly effective story simply to learn it, however there are such a lot of completely different folks which might be bringing this sort of issues to life and making them alive and, you realize, a enjoyable expertise for teenagers, as a result of there are such a lot of different experiences which might be simply coming out at you and are taking on a lot of our consideration that you must compete at that very same stage.If you wish to be compelling, you wish to be thrilling, you must try this. Truly, my good friend, the Tech Rabbi, he is a blue verify man within the listener right here, he does this additionally in his college and I’ve seen a number of the work that he does. So that is simply the way in which, that is how you retain issues alive and we maintain issues going and contemporary. So, yeah, it is what you bought. It’s important to do it, and it is the fitting factor to do additionally to make studying and make custom enjoyable and related to folks.[ads][21:28] Leigh: Talking of that, I wish to type of go over, you are speaking a little bit bit, each you and Jeremy about a number of the core values and ideas which might be very related between the Bitcoin ethos and Judaism. I wish to discover that with you a little bit bit extra and perhaps we must always begin with only a very primary for anybody who does not already understand it telling of the Hanukkah story. So what’s it that we’re celebrating tonight? Rabbi, are you able to inform us an abbreviated and kid-friendly model of the Hanukkah story?[21:55] The Bitcoin Rabbi: Certain. So, that is about 2,200 years in the past, the Jewish folks lived within the Holy Land in Israel. It was in the course of the instances of the Second Temple interval. So, there was the primary temple of King David, and King Solomon, which was then destroyed and rebuilt. So this was really after Alexander the Nice conquered your entire Center East and conquered many of the world. So, after we say that the warfare of Hanukkah was in opposition to the Greeks, it was really the entire world was referred to as Greek. So it is really a Syrian king. So that they have been referred to as Greeks as a result of they’d the Greek tradition and so they have been a part of the Greek Empire. However, principally, there was a Syrian Greek king named Antiochus, and he started to oppress the Jewish folks. In many of the Empire, the Greek tradition was simply naturally spreading, it was making its method via the Center East. It was making its method via Northern Africa, however Israel had its personal distinct tradition and personal faith.For a lot of the time that Israel was colonized by Greece and Rome and different empires, they only type of left Israel alone just about, they collected their taxes, however there was one king named Antiochus III and he was a madman. He was a tyrant and he was very against the Jewish folks having their very own tradition and their very own society, and he needed to colonize them to show them into Greeks. So he really eliminated the Jewish leaders from their spiritual positions and changed them with Greek loyalists, and he had temples of idol worship constructed all through Israel and tried to implement, notably the leaders of the Jewish folks, to attempt to get them to worship idols and to adapt Greek tradition. Though there have been some that went together with it, the Jewish management, in some unspecified time in the future, they rose up and there was an individual named Matisyahu, he was the excessive priest and he and his sons, at one level, they have been as an idol put of their city sq. and so they mentioned, sufficient is sufficient, and so they began a insurrection.They fought again in opposition to, and so they have been the priestly class. So that they weren’t troopers. They weren’t educated. They didn’t have weapons. They didn’t have an enormous military, however they used, principally, guerrilla warfare. They fought again in opposition to the Greeks. They pushed off again an enormous military and reclaimed Jerusalem, which had been completely captured and brought over. The Holy Temple in Jerusalem had been fully defiled, idols had been constructed, and all the pieces was just about destroyed or defiled. After months of preventing, they arrived into the temple, they discovered it in primary ruins, and so they needed to reestablish the prayers and the service and the day by day worship, which one of many main practices of the Holy Temple in Jerusalem was lighting this menorah, this golden candelabra each single day.So that they received there, they set all the pieces up after which they realized that they could not discover any of the oil. The oil needed to be particular. It needed to be pure. It needed to be made by the monks and arrange. They could not discover any, and so they have been distraught, however they stored wanting and so they discovered one little jug of oil. One small jug of oil, which solely had sufficient to fill the candelabra and lightweight it for in the future. They mentioned, we’ve sufficient for in the future, we’re not going to have the ability to get extra oil till eight days from now. It can take us that lengthy both to supply it or to acquire it, or to ship it, or no matter it was, that they would not have extra oil for eight extra days. So that they mentioned, properly, we solely have sufficient oil for in the future. Let’s simply mild it and we’ll do the very best that we will. Then in eight days, then we’ll get the opposite oil. So that they lit this oil and it did not simply burn for in the future, it burned for all eight days.So, on high of the miracle of them surviving and successful this warfare and reclaiming their native homeland and their Holy Temple, the truth that this additional miracle of discovering this pure oil after which the oil lasting for eight days, was an indication for them that that their spirit of energy and their spirit of dedication was true and was accepted by God. So that they established this vacation that each one Jewish folks, all the time, ought to mild these candles yearly to recollect this miracle that occurred. The miracle of the victory of the small in opposition to the various, the weak in opposition to the sturdy, the pure in opposition to the defiled, and of the oil that represented that pureness and that it was a little bit jug that was discovered, it type of represented them. It represented their spirit that they have been the final holdouts and that they have been put to the check and so they stood up, after which they did what they wanted to do. In order that’s a narrative on one foot. That’s what we’re celebrating on Hanukkah, that the little little bit of oil and a little bit bit of sunshine was in a position to banish the nice darkness that was attempting to persecute them at the moment.[27:47] Leigh: There’s so many themes which might be related. Oh, sorry, Meni, have been you going to say one thing?[27:51] Meni Rosenfeld: Yeah. Hello, everybody. Yeah. I needed so as to add a bit to The Bitcoin Rabbi’s story as a result of normally in Hanukkah, I inform principally the identical story that The Bitcoin Rabbi simply informed about within the fashionable language terminology that’s acquainted to us Bitcoiners. So, I would like so as to add that we normally do it in Hebrew. I hope I am going to make it okay in English. So, such as you mentioned, we have been dwelling within the vacation, we adopted the phrases of the Bitcoin protocol however then the evil Greek king needed us to do a half [inaudible] area. He needed us to worship Judaism money SV. He mentioned many issues that we won’t do. We won’t learn the white paper. We won’t maintain the issue of goal. We won’t mine blocks and the nice troopers are simply DDoS assaults and double spending and issues. That is why the [inaudible] named the gentle fork and that we managed to win.So, yeah, we took again Jerusalem and the temple. We now have all of the fallen statues and there was a menorah manufactured from pure Bitcoin, which we would have liked to mild to do the proof of burn. Yeah. So we would have liked sufficient Bitcoin to mild the menorah and we could not discover any, we simply discovered one chilly pockets, one digitally signed chilly pockets, which had solely sufficient Bitcoins for the transaction charge for one transaction. So what we did, we used this tiny quantity of Bitcoin to open a Lightning channel and utilizing it, we have been in a position to mild the menorah every single day. All proper. So for one transaction, we managed to make many, many funds to the menorah. In order that was the miracle of the Lightning Community that allowed us to make use of one Bitcoin pockets to mild the menorah for eight days. Yeah. In order that’s principally…[30:08] The Bitcoin Rabbi: I’ve to say Meni is the actual unique Bitcoiner. Just about all of the concepts that I assumed that I used to be so intelligent, Meni has been doing this for, like, 12 years. So I’ve to say that’s incredible and…[30:23] Leigh: Very a lot respect you deciphering that in fashionable phrases we will all perceive. Buck, I can see we made you a speaker right here, and I used to be curious if it caught out to you the way in which it caught out to me how this try and drive centralized guidelines on a local people that it simply wasn’t related too. It is type of like an underlying theme of one thing that we’re preventing in opposition to and quite a lot of completely different Jewish tales. I am together with Hanukkah. Once you’re listening to the story, once more, after, perhaps not listening to it since final yr, was there something that caught out to you, Buck, by way of values that jumped out as an ethical of the story?[30:57] Buck: Hey, yeah. Truly, I used to be going to touch upon that actual factor. I feel they’re like the favored picture of Hanukkah is simply this sort of like, you realize the menorah, you realize the dreidel after which the current is that if it is type of competing with Christmas sort of factor. However I feel there’s this very distinctive story that is occurring and a giant a part of that’s the type of anti-forced assimilation, proper? There’s like a deep story there about to what diploma do you assimilate however then, in fact, like the massive drawback of what occurred was the type of pressured assimilation and never similar to you could behave this manner, however we’re going to do one thing that actively desecrates which you think about holy. I feel holy can imply quite a lot of issues to completely different folks and it does not simply must be within the Godly sense or I feel secular folks will generally additionally deal with issues in a Godly sense with out essentially realizing it, however you may see you need not essentially drive these forms of practices on folks, as a result of I feel that is once you begin overstepping. I feel to type of Meni’s a part of the story there with the sunshine gentle fork, proper, perhaps that is type of what a gentle fork is. It isn’t forcing folks to assimilate right into a sure method, however permitting folks to, you realize what, if you happen to do not wish to use SegWit, you may carry on utilizing your previous pay-to-public-key-hash addresses and be simply effective.Perhaps sooner or later if we’ve good contracts with covenants and up CTV, and also you wish to use that, you are able to do that, too. We’re all one massive comfortable Bitcoin world household right here.[32:40] Leigh: Yeah, it is a actually good level. I respect that opinions on gentle forks. I hadn’t considered it that method.[32:45] The Bitcoin Rabbi: I wish to hear my good friend, the Tech Rabbi, you are up, and I do know that, positively, you are taking this sort of issues and in addition deliver them to life in your college students as properly.[32:56] Tech Rabbi: Yeah. Thanks for sending me a DM, letting me know that is taking place. I am really on my option to NFT Basel occasions in Miami. However, as I am driving, I used to be extra having fun with simply the dialog, the dynamic between the deep tradition and id of Hanukkah. It is very completely different than each different vacation as a result of the opposite holidays are way more rooted in sure spiritual practices associated to the leaving of Egypt and in Mount Sinai. However Hanukkah is extra about the concept that nobody can come and attempt to destroy your id and your tradition. I feel that with out forcing too intensive a relationship between that idea of Hanukkah and the larger crypto scene, and particularly Bitcoin, I feel that what Bitcoin is doing proper now’s it is displaying the world that you just shouldn’t have to adapt to the gatekeepers of the web, of the finance world, of funding and prosperity, and truly present that collectively, as a neighborhood, no matter how “well-equipped” we’re, we’re in a position to triumph as a result of we’ve that communal connection.That communal connection is what makes Hanukkah so highly effective. The [inaudible] Rabbi really makes it clear that the menorah is just not a non secular image. It is a image of showing mild within the face of darkness, and it is about displaying the prosperity that may include freedom and being sturdy and connecting to who you really are. So I benefit from the connections between and the way everyone seems to be sharing from a special angle, however there’s so many alternative aspects to how we will relate to this vacation, this miracle. So far as what I do, I do not wish to bore anybody, however I am going to simply say that, if I may say it in a single line, I am on a mission proper now to point out Gen Z and Gen Alpha, which is principally like anybody from age six to 25, that they’ve the best alternative of a lifetime proper now. If they’ll simply concentrate on their essential pondering and evaluation abilities, they’ll purchase another technical ability to create simply completely unbelievable potentialities and outcomes. If anybody is admittedly curious, you may simply join with me and undergo the dribble of my timeline and stuff I do on the day after day.So thanks a lot for bringing me as much as share and comfortable Hanukkah to everyone.[35:56] Leigh: Yeah. Pleased Hanukkah. Thanks a lot for becoming a member of. I actually respect you bringing that perspective.[36:01] Visitor 3: That basically spoke to me, frankly. Form of rising up in a perhaps a little bit bit extra secular type of Jewish dwelling, background is extra Ukrainian, so type of [inaudible] settling in Western Canada. So I really feel very disconnected to that. The best way that type of you place that, it actually connects with me. Thanks.[36:31] Leigh: Victoria, I’ve additionally invited you as much as converse right here, and I am curious to listen to what you have been occupied with. When you’ve been listening to about all these analogies, connecting Bitcoin to the Hanukkah story, how are you celebrating and what have you ever been occupied with these tales thus far?[36:43] Victoria: Hey, thanks for inviting me up and Pleased Hanukkah. I am really on the way in which to my dad and mom’ home proper now. Now that I dwell type of native with them, we go and lightweight the candles collectively each night time. I’ve by no means thought of it this manner so it has been actually, actually fascinating to hearken to the one factor that has all the time stood out to me that I’ve felt, I assume, being Jewish is rather like, for me, it is much more about neighborhood. It is like a really welcoming neighborhood and that is, I assume, the one factor that I’ve all the time associated to attending to Bitcoin is like there’s such a robust sense of neighborhood that you just actually may do something and we will be very resilient and we’ve such a optimistic worth system, quite a lot of us, that it is actually what resonates with me.So, yeah, I respect all of this deep thought, although. That is actually fascinating to hearken to.[37:39] Leigh: Yeah. Jeremy, what have you ever been occupied with as they have been speaking concerning the story as properly? Have you considered different values and even like threads in that story that relate to the ways in which we take into consideration issues that is self-sovereign people in terms of Bitcoin?[37:53] Jeremy: Yeah. Properly, I imply, I have been doing quite a lot of studying not too long ago about completely different type of Jewish philosophies and ethics and issues like that. One of many issues that I discovered a little bit bit about is the virtues of Abraham and the way, within the Torah, he’s described as speeding to do all the pieces. So I am unable to recall the precise issues that he was speeding to do, however it might be like his company have been thirsty and he rushes to go get water from the properly, and any person is chilly and he rushes to get them a blanket, that type of stuff.[38:38] The Bitcoin Rabbi: I am going to simply say it says notably for The Binding of Isaac, it says, he arose early and it was probably the most troublesome problem in his life. It says, he arose early within the morning and that is the place the supply of that comes from is that to do probably the most difficult factor that he ever got here to in his life, he did not push it off and wait till later. He went straight at it and he arose early within the morning. So that you’re proper on the right track. That is the place that comes from.[39:13] Jeremy: Yeah. Yeah, I feel there are additionally another anecdotes the place it was remarked to type of construct that narrative that he wasn’t somebody who waited round to do an excellent deed. I imply, The Binding of Isaac is, clearly, a really controversial, emotional story, however I feel the precept reduces all the way down to extra typically like when you might have a possibility to do good on the planet, it is incumbent on you to try this as quickly as attainable. I see that because it pertains to Bitcoin advocacy in a way of, I see that within the Bitcoin neighborhood of, are you actually going to attempt to pay your waiter on the restaurant a tip in Bitcoin? It is like, properly, perhaps you are going to be doing an excellent deed and type of serving to them defend their wealth and property, once more, some inflation or one thing like that. So I see type of a parallel of Bitcoiners having this advantage across the urgency with which they view the great work there.The place the place I see some potential battle between the way in which that Bitcoiners work and the way in which that Jews work is to make use of our non-vangelical. So, when we’ve one thing that we imagine in, we typically imagine that it ought to converse by itself advantage, the standard of this stuff. It is very libertarian that anybody is free to study concerning the issues that we do as Jews and to take part in our rituals. When you strongly establish with them, even turn out to be Jewish and be totally welcomed, however on the subject of evangelism, it isn’t a lot a door we’re attempting to push folks via. I see that perhaps in distinction with Bitcoiners, the place generally folks actually wish to push it in context the place it isn’t one thing that is essentially being welcomed totally. In order that’s one thing that I see fascinating.I assume I am going to simply wrap up by saying in my very own work, I view there being like potential issues with Bitcoin that folks can be going through down the road and I strive to not delay in attempting to repair these situation structurally, as a result of I feel that the work is nice now, and if we will do the great factor right now, it is significantly better than if we wait to do it tomorrow.[41:43] The Bitcoin Rabbi: Jeremy, I feel that these are all superior factors. I wish to simply touch upon the final level that you just made concerning the evangelism. I feel perhaps that is perhaps one thing, like a perspective that may very well be used and may very well be appreciated by Bitcoiners that not everyone wants to leap on and be precisely turn out to be a full-on Bitcoiner and do it precisely the way in which that you just do it. That is type of the way in which that Judaism works that we’re all the time keen to share our message to anybody and discuss to anybody and are welcoming. There’s issues to study even when any person does not wish to be Jewish, however they do not must be. However there are nonetheless perhaps classes or values that may be discovered and could be extra common. Like, I feel the concepts from Hanukkah like we’re discussing tonight and perhaps that Bitcoiners, when they’re approaching folks, may also have that concept of, perhaps there’s some concepts that Bitcoin has for everyone, however they may not be all able to be all in like any person else. So I feel that in all probability can be an excellent comparability. It might work properly if Bitcoin works like that as properly.[43:06] Meni: Yeah, and I wish to add that I feel there are seven approaches to Bitcoin Evangelism, and I feel one in all them is the one certified by the phrase, have enjoyable staying poor, which I really like the phrase, however I do not actually love a number of the philosophy behind it, as a result of that is type of method that claims that to be a Bitcoiner Evangelist, you must say, you could purchase Bitcoin. When you do not buy Bitcoin, you are silly, you will be poor. You will have first, second and so forth. I do not assume that is appropriate as a result of I feel that at this level, really shopping for the Bitcoin is the fitting alternative for everybody. I do not assume it is our job to attempt to persuade anybody to return. Yeah, like The Bitcoin Rabbi mentioned, that as Jews, we inform folks about our faith and so forth. Then, yeah, that is to inform folks about Bitcoin and provides all of them the data they should make an knowledgeable alternative, I imply, what they wish to do with it, whether or not to put money into Bitcoins or do one thing else.So I do not assume we must always include a predator thoughts conclusion on what others ought to do. We should always simply give the data they should make their very own alternative. On this side. I do assume it is extra much like Judaism the place Judaism does not inform anybody that try to be Jew, proper? We like to inform about Judaism stuff and so forth. If somebody desires to turn out to be a Jew, we can assist him. I imply, so far as I perceive, we aren’t too encouraging of individuals to turn out to be Jews, but when they actually need it, we’ll provide the instruments for it. However we do not push for it similar to we should not push folks to purchase Bitcoin to do no matter.[45:05] Leigh: Yeah, however I wish to type of spotlight and convey out one of many issues that you just’d mentioned there however was a little bit bit hidden beneath the floor, which is that there is not any one option to be a Bitcoiner, and the identical method that there is not any one option to be a Jew. Like, you may have a Sephardic Jew who perhaps eats sure sorts of meals and you’ve got an Ashkenazi Jew that eats meals completely different method, and so they’re each fully Jews and so they’re doing issues the fitting method. I feel that is very similar to being a Bitcoiner and that there is quite a lot of proper methods to do issues. Perhaps somebody desires to make use of Specter as a substitute of Electrum. Perhaps somebody desires to run a Lightning node. Perhaps somebody does not, and so long as you are understanding the worth of self-sovereign instruments, so long as you are understanding the worth of the core story that we’re celebrating right here, whether or not you are consuming the meals in a method or a special method, it is nonetheless each Jewish, and I feel that is one thing that, in some methods, similar to being a Bitcoiner. As a result of so long as you are understanding the core worth of what you are doing and also you’re getting the worth that you just’re in search of from that software, then there are lots of methods to be a Bitcoiner and so they’re all the proper method, so long as that is the way in which that you just’re selecting your self.[ads][48:05] Buck: I simply needed so as to add a little bit bit extra on to that time as properly. I feel it is fascinating. I am nonetheless type of new to Jewish philosophy and simply type of digging into it. However one factor that I’ve discovered or understood from listening to different folks is that in Judaism, there’s not this like, if you happen to assume in different extra evangelical religions, there’s a part of the mission is to “save folks”, proper, the place you go after and also you attempt to convert and also you attempt to save them. However I feel in Judaism, my understanding is that, actually, that by you your self dwelling a greater life, by enhancing the world via good acts, proper, via mitzvot, that is what you do to enhance the world. By doing in order properly, you deliver everyone, you deliver the entire world nearer to God. I feel there’s an fascinating level there to what Jeremy was saying as like perhaps one other method or a proper option to do Bitcoin Evangelism is admittedly simply to dwell an excellent life, dwell an excellent Bitcoiner life and contribute to the neighborhood and it’ll are available time, primarily.I feel one other fascinating parallel between Judaism and Bitcoin is, if you happen to simply take into consideration the time scale of Judaism and simply the truth that the Jewish folks and the Jewish faith and the tradition has been round for X hundreds of years, I imply, discuss low time choice, proper? So when the Jewish folks have gone via so many challenges, there’s all the time like, properly, we’ll endure, we’ll persevere, dwell an excellent life, enhance the world by doing what you may, your mitzvot for God and type of the remainder will come. We’re simply type of contributing a small little bit to good the world a little bit bit at a time.[49:52] The Bitcoin Rabbi: I really like that, that time of the low time choice. It is also like, you need not transfer quick and break issues, you need not alter each six months to the winds of change. As a result of the Jews say, each different vacation of Judaism is, they are saying, they tried to kill us, they did not kill us, let’s examine. So, Hanukkah is a type of just about each vacation, had some side of that. We glance again on the Syrian Greeks of that age. The Jewish persons are nonetheless right here. They don’t seem to be right here. The Egyptian Empire that enslaved us, the Jews are right here, they don’t seem to be right here, that via our technique of preserving to a practice and preserving to a core worth, that has been the important thing to our longevity and to being right here to at the present time, even in probably the most dire straits or probably the most dire conditions. So there is a worth in that of getting a conservative path of claiming, we’ve values, and even when the winds are pulling us, a method or one other, we must always keep on with them.[51:09] Leigh: Superior. Brekkie, I needed to present you a chance to talk. Are you celebrating the vacation right now? And if that’s the case, how are you celebrating?[51:17] Brekkie: Thanks, Leigh. I used to be really celebrating final night time with my household with whom since left city, however glad to be right here with all of you all, and Pleased Hanukkah.I needed to ask the Rabbi and everybody right here. Perhaps I’ve a special analogy for Bitcoin Evangelism. Properly, I’ve two analogies which may work. One is, I virtually consider it type of like once you’re strolling by a Shabbat and the Rabbi comes out and presses a drink into your arms, says, come, come drink, like he isn’t forcing you to be Jewish. However, he’s together with you and type of getting you in there. I additionally could not assist however consider my mom and the idea of Jewish guilt, the place she does not really make me do something however she’s like, “Oh, you actually ought to, you would be significantly better off if you happen to adopted Bitcoin.” So it is type of like, I do not know, one thing [inaudible].[52:04] The Bitcoin Rabbi: That is what your mom says to you? That is the type of guilt your mom offers you?[52:09] Brekkie: No, that was my impression of my mom. My mom does not sound like that, but when my mom have been from the previous nation and a Bitcoiner.[52:04] The Bitcoin Rabbi: In case your mom was an Japanese European, orange-peeled Bitcoiner, that is how she would sound.[52:22] Leigh: I’ll say my mom not too long ago guilted me that after I defined to her the idea of chilly storage, she was like, “Oh, properly, you are actually not doing sufficient of that, I can inform.”[52:32] The Bitcoin Rabbi: My spouse additionally, my spouse is like, after I purchase one thing, she’s like, may I received quite a lot of Bitcoin for the way a lot you spent on that pizza oven that you just simply received or no matter, one thing like that. So, I additionally get that Bitcoin guilt. You talked about Shabbat. Shabbat is a Jewish group in philosophy that does do outreach however, once more, I would not say that it is evangelism or it isn’t attempting to transform folks. However the philosophy is that you may assist folks as Buck was saying earlier.[53:14] Brekkie: Yeah.[53:14] The Bitcoin Rabbi: By dwelling your finest life and by being the very best, which implies together with different folks, being type to different folks, being sharing and being welcoming and educating different folks, you are not likely altering them. You are not changing them. You are serving to them be the very best. By you being the very best that you may be, you’re serving to different folks understand extra potential that they’ve.[53:42] Jeremy: I might say the Shabbat like, have you ever repped to fill them right now is type of equal to the, get your cash off exchanged day vacation or like [inaudible] is a good instance. Like, hey, we will all get collectively and we will create quite a lot of Lightning channels. Would not that be nice? You do it and also you’re becoming a member of collectively in the neighborhood and actually contributing to the, I feel because the rabbi was saying, the potential of everybody, and it is a group effort to get everybody to do stuff like that. It isn’t one thing that essentially your individual particular person incentives will level you to.[54:20] Jeremy: The Shabbat dinner of Bitcoin.[54:23] Leigh: We’re arising near the tip of our time. So I needed to verify earlier than we go. Once more, I can see you might have your hand raised and in addition Craig. I wish to simply allow you to…[54:30] Jeremy: I simply needed to rapidly announce that the transaction lastly confirmed. I used to be going to ask the rabbi what the principles say if the transaction will get caught, nevertheless it simply confirmed.[54:41] Leigh: Good. I really like the truth that Bitcoin is actually information, so you can also make that information into shapes and do issues with it.[54:48] The Bitcoin Rabbi: Leigh, I needed to say two issues earlier than we run out of time. One, I wish to let everyone know that I am internet hosting a VR metaverse of menorah lighting Hanukkah social gathering on Thursday night time, you do not want a VR headset, nevertheless it’s excellent. I hoped that perhaps you might pin that right here. The VR room says that there is a fifty-person restrict however I do not know if we will perhaps rotate folks in or one thing if we hit that restrict. It is my pinned tweet proper now. So I positively wish to invite folks to try this.So far as I do know, it is the primary public group menorah lighting within the metaverse in VR, in order that’s going to be Thursday night time 4 p.m. New York time. Then in a short time, Leigh, are you aware concerning the story of Yehudit on Hanukkah? I simply needed to deliver this up for you. Have you ever ever heard of this story, Leigh?[55:51] Leigh: No. What is that this?[55:52] The Bitcoin Rabbi: Okay. The tremendous traditional feminist energy girl throughout Hanukkah. She was the daughter of one of many leaders. So, principally, whereas they have been preventing the Greeks, their metropolis was being sieged and he or she got here out. A lady named Yehudit got here out to the Greek military that was there, and he or she was like, “Oh, I am coming to announce our give up and I introduced items in your basic,” and he or she had together with her a basket that had cheese and wine.[56:35] Leigh: Oh, is that this the lady who stabbed a person within the head?[56:37] The Bitcoin Rabbi: Sure. So she was introduced into the final’s tent to deliver her a present, and he or she gave him the salty cheese, and he ate the cheese, after which he was very thirsty, after which he drank the heavy wine. He received drunk. He fell asleep. She took the knife that she had within the basket beneath, chopped his head off, after which left the tent and went again to town to the nice victory, in order that was one of many nice victories of Hanukkah. So she’s like one of many heroes of the story and truly, due to that, it is a customized, we’ve quite a lot of meals customs on Hanukkah. We eat fried meals, issues which might be fried in oil. So we eat potato latkes, that are potato pancakes fried in oil. We eat donuts, sufganiyot, which might be fried in oil after which we additionally eat cheese and dairy in her honor. So, I simply needed to verify to throw that on the market as a result of I knew you’d respect it.[57:42] Leigh: Thanks. I do respect that very zesty warfare story. I keep in mind that one, I keep in mind that she was like, she gave him cheese and tricked him after which stabbed him within the head. Earlier than I let everybody go and luxuriate in the remainder of their night, Craig, did you wish to simply share with us a little bit bit about the way you’re celebrating this Hanukkah?[58:00] Craig: Yeah. So I’ve been celebrating with my household and going out to this place in Fairview, North Carolina to do a bonfire menorah ceremony, which has been actually enjoyable. I am additionally attempting to orange peel everyone who comes over to have a good time Hanukkah by taking part in dreidel and winners get open dimes. So I get to show them dreidel and in addition give them open dimes.[58:32] Leigh: I really like this. It is a nice thought of taking part in dreidel for open dimes. I hope that folks deliver open dimes at any time and do events sooner or later, as a result of I might love successful that. It is very, very cool.[58:42] The Bitcoin Rabbi: That is an superior option to do it. We now have finished some dreidel Lightning within the social gathering, within the metaverse within the VR, we do have dreidel for Lightning for a Bitcoin. You are proper on the right track. That is the way in which it needs to be.[59:03] Craig: Blue pockets or simply Lightning rounds too is one other good way. Begin with a thousand Sats for everyone after which simply have a set quantity of Sats that you may contribute if you happen to get a shin or ante-up.[59:19] Brekkie: Rabbi, you realize that God made a metaverse referred to as the universe, proper? I simply have to level that out nevertheless it’s very good. There’s plenty of good folks there. I attempt to spend as a lot time in there as attainable.[59:30] Leigh: He does not less than in the future per week, guys. I imply…[59:32] The Bitcoin Rabbi: Yeah, yeah, I do know. That is what Shabbat is for, proper? The Shabbat is for that. These different six days that is, in six days, thou shalt metaverse and on the seventh day, thou shalt common verse, proper? I imagine that is what the verse says, is not it? All proper, I do know, I do know, I could not keep away from that one. I am sorry.[59:58] Leigh: I like it. Superior. So, with that, I wish to thank everybody a lot for celebrating with us tonight. When you occur to be in search of stuff to do on Shabbat, extremely advocate getting your self a Bitcoin Journal and studying an precise paper. It is enjoyable. It is plenty of enjoyable. I wrote an article there the place we talked to a very badass woman, Cynthia Lummis, about Bitcoin mining and all of the fantastic issues which might be concerned with how this business is genuinely opening up new potentialities in terms of vitality sector and to regulation on the whole.So, with that, I thanks once more.[1:00:31] Jeremy: Can I present one thing?[1:00:32] Leigh: Oh, yeah, please present away.[1:00:35] Jeremy: I will ship out a Bitcoin vacation/Hanukkah card. I am going to retweet the tweet so as to see it. However if you want a type of, you must ship me a Bitcoin public key, so you bought to generate that on a node, not simply an deal with, after which I am going to ship these out at some point with directions on how one can declare.[1:00:55] The Bitcoin Rabbi: What’s an xPub?[1:01:00] Jeremy: Yeah, precisely. When you ship an xPub, I am going to be capable of use that. However, if you happen to ship an deal with, until it is a Taproot deal with, I do not assume I might be capable of. However I feel a Taproot deal with, I am not prepared for but. My software program is but to be upgraded.[1:01:12] Leigh: So I do know that within the medium section, addresses that normally begin with like bc1 or one thing, and that is how I can normally inform, is there one thing that public key normally begins with or a method that you may acknowledge it as completely different from the factor you could not use?[1:01:25] Jeremy: It ought to simply be a hex string and it normally begins with 02 or 03.[1:01:32] Leigh: Excellent. Thanks. That is actually useful for me. Superior. Properly, thanks a lot everyone for becoming a member of and I hope that you’ve got an exquisite remainder of your night.[1:01:42] Visitor 4: Pleased Hanukkah, everybody.[1:01:43] The Bitcoin Rabbi: Pleased Hanukkah, everybody.[crosstalk][1:01:45] The Bitcoin Rabbi: Thanks, Leigh. Thanks, Bitcoin Journal.
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